Thousands of Reddit communities 'go dark' in protest of new developer fees (2024)

Thousands of communities on Reddit are "going dark" in response to changes the company announced that would charge third-party developers for access to its site data. Justin Sullivan/Getty Images hide caption

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Thousands of communities on Reddit are "going dark" in response to changes the company announced that would charge third-party developers for access to its site data.

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Thousands of sections of the popular online message board Reddit are "going dark" for two days starting Monday to protest controversial new fees the site is charging third-party developers.

Some of the largest communities on Reddit are being set to private for 48 hours, meaning they will not be publicly available. By doing this, Redditors aim to pressure company executives to reverse their decision to charge developers for access to the site, which until now has been free.

In a Reddit post about the boycott, organizers wrote that the charges are "a step toward killing other ways of customizing Reddit."

For example, many mobile users of Reddit use third-party apps like Apollo, Reddit is Fun and ReddPlanet to browse the site.

But because of the new fees for accessing Reddit data, it may become too expensive for some third-party apps to exist at all.

In fact, the apps Apollo, Reddit is Fun and ReddPlanet have all said they will be shutting down in response to the fees.

"Reddit's recent decisions and actions have unfortunately made it impossible for Apollo to continue," Apollo developer Christian Selig tweeted last week. Other third-party apps have followed suit.

"It is really brutal because I loved building this app and for it just suddenly within two weeks to just crumble to nothing," Selig said in an interview with NPR. "It really hurts."

Nearly 9,000 so-called subreddits — individual discussion areas — are participating in the blackout, according to organizers.

Why is Reddit doing this?

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman hosted an AMA — short for "ask me anything" — on the site recently in an attempt to quell the furor over the changes.

"Reddit needs to be a self-sustaining business, and to do that, we can no longer subsidize commercial entities that require large-scale data use," Huffman wrote.

One Redditor asked Huffman to respond to concerns that Reddit is becoming increasingly profit-driven, which stands in sharp contrast to the freewheeling and often anti-establishment ethos of the site.

Huffman wrote that Reddit is not currently profitable, unlike some third-party apps that many use to navigate the site.

"We'll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive," Huffman wrote.

In addition, Huffman has said a host of generative AI tools like ChatGPT scrape Reddit for a vast amount of data to help train AI models. Reddit says it does not get much from that arrangement, saying it's time for the companies behind AI tools to pay up.

Huffman has said that the charges will impact third-party apps that are the heaviest users of Reddit data. He said about 90% of third-party Reddit apps can still access the website's data for free, though the most popular outside apps will soon be getting a bill from Reddit.

The access changes to its application programming interface, also known as API, are part of a larger shake-up at the company that has included reductions in its staff by 5% and also in future hiring.

The new focus on making money on the advertising-driven site founded in 2005 comes as it reportedly plans to list its shares publicly on the stock market as soon as later this year.

In 2021, Reddit filed paperwork with the Securities and Exchange Commission indicating it intended to go public, but shortly after, tech stocks began to plunge. The company then shelved those plans.

Reddit is following the lead of Twitter in charging for API access

Reddit's crackdown on third-party apps comes just a few months after Twitter CEO Elon Musk tightened the screws on outside access to the social media platform.

Earlier this year, Musk ended free access to Twitter's API. The company unveiled a $5,000 per month plans for such access, which was too costly for most developers and academics studying the influential site.

Both Reddit and Twitter's attempts to monetize a once-free service comes as the online advertising market has taken a major nosedive, prompting layoffs and other cutbacks at tech companies reliant on ads, including Meta, Snap, Google's YouTube and others.

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Reddit has said that it spends "multi-millions of dollars" a year on allowing third-party apps access to its data, and that it "needs to be fairly paid."

Reddit first announced the changes in April. Back then, it said not all developers will be affected. For instance, it says it will still allow researchers and academics to have free access to its data.

Some Reddit users have said if more third-party apps are killed off by the changes, they will be looking to abandon the site altogether.

"Reddit is toast," wrote a user who goes by TheseGreyHeavens. "The moment my 3P app stops working, I'm done with Reddit," the person wrote, referring to third-party apps, on the discussion featuring CEO Huffman.

"Frankly, I grow tired of when I see CEOs try to paint some picture that somehow bringing in more money means better innovation and services," wrote user InternetArtisan. "Just come out and say you want more money and are not here to be some charitable 'make the world a better place' company."

Thousands of Reddit communities 'go dark' in protest of new developer fees (2024)

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Thousands of Reddit communities 'go dark' in protest of new developer fees? ›

Thousands of sections of the popular online message board Reddit are "going dark" for two days starting Monday to protest controversial new fees the site is charging third-party developers. Some of the largest communities on Reddit are being set to private for 48 hours, meaning they will not be publicly available.

Why are Reddit communities going dark? ›

If you try to access Reddit, you'll find that many of the platform's communities have gone private. More than 8,000 subreddits — including popular ones such as r/gaming, r/funny, r/aww — are going dark to protest fees that Reddit is charging for third-party access to its API, or application programming interface.

Why did Reddit go black? ›

Thousands of Reddit forums, or subreddits, went private on June 12, primarily to protest the company's decision to start charging third-party developers for access to its data starting in July. The blackout was supposed to end on the morning of June 14, and some subreddits are back online.

What is the Reddit API protest? ›

The protest began because of Reddit's mid-year decision to begin charging for access to its API, or application programming interface. The change hampered the ability of outside companies and users to work with data from the social network for their own products and services.

How is the Reddit protest going? ›

The protests were supposed to show the strength and fortitude of Reddit's community: they wanted a path for their favorite apps to exist, and they wanted Reddit to listen. But more than two weeks later, most communities have opened back up, and Reddit shows no signs of backing down.

What's up with Reddit blackout? ›

The blackout is an attempt by the site's users to force the company to scrap plans to introduce controversial charges for third-party apps.

What subreddits are going dark permanently? ›

Some subreddits pledged to permanently shut down unless Reddit “adequately addresses” its users' concerns, according to a post in r/Save3rdPartyApps. The most popular subreddits participating the blackout include r/funny, r/aww, r/gaming, r/Music, r/Pics, r/science and r/todayilearned.

What subreddits are going black? ›

Over 7,000 subreddits, including many of the most-subscribed communities on Reddit like r/funny, r/aww, r/gaming, r/music, and r/science, have set themselves private to protest Reddit's upcoming API pricing changes.

What ethnicity are Reddit users? ›

Percentage of U.S. adults who use Reddit as of September 2023, by ethnicity
CharacteristicReach
White21%
Black14%
Hispanic23%
Asian36%
Feb 28, 2024

Why is Reddit so dark? ›

Roughly 30 percent of Reddit is currently dark, with more than 2,000 subreddits—the individual community forums housed on the site, which are moderated by volunteers—involved in an ongoing protest of Reddit's decision to charge third-party app developers for access to the company's backend.

Who owns Reddit now? ›

Reddit was founded by University of Virginia roommates Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian, as well as Aaron Swartz, in 2005. Condé Nast Publications acquired the site in October 2006. In 2011, Reddit became an independent subsidiary of Condé Nast's parent company, Advance Publications.

What are the controversial subreddits? ›

The largest of the banned subreddits, r/FatPeopleHate, had an estimated 151,000 subscribers at the time of its banning. r/FatPeopleHate hosted photos of overweight people for the purpose of mockery. The other four subreddits were r/hamplanethatred, r/neofa*g, r/transfa*gs, and r/sh*tnigg*rssay.

Why are so many subreddits going dark? ›

Some 7,000 Reddit communities, totalling hundreds of millions of subscribers, are protesting against new API pricing changes that could kill off third-party apps.

How long will Reddit blackout last? ›

The Reddit blackout may be well beyond its proposed 48-hour window, but aftershocks continue to hit the site.

Why is Reddit charging for API? ›

Providing a free API was becoming costly for Reddit. Enterprise-scale developers now have to pay for access to Reddit's data. Reddit is changing its API pricing policy, and users are up in arms.

How many Reddit communities have gone dark? ›

At its peak, Reddark was reporting that over 8,000 subreddits had gone dark in protest. The sheer amount of subreddits setting themselves to private also caused stability issues for the site more generally, with users struggling to access the remaining public content.

How long are Reddit subs going dark? ›

More than 7,000 popular Reddit communities, including r/iPhone and r/AskHistorians, on Monday began restricting access to their message boards for 48 hours, a livestream of participating subreddits shows.

Why are so many subreddits getting deleted? ›

In the first half of 2023, the most common reason for subreddit removal was spam, with 199,525 subreddits being removed and banned for this reason. Additionally, over 195 thousand communities were taken down by Reddit admins due to a lack of active moderation.

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